“National security” & the State!

1947 New Mexico
Location: Walker Air Force Base is a closed the United States Air Force base located three miles (5 km) south of the central business district (CBD) of Roswell, a city in Chaves County, New Mexico, US. Opened in 1941 as an Army Air Corps flying school, it was active during World War II and the postwar era as Roswell Army Air Field. Used between ‎1941-1967.

By Matilda and send to Mark Spencer for publication and placing it into the public domain.

First: Matilda was born in 1924 and she was 23 when she did the interviews. These Interviews took and recorded as classified between  8. July 1947 – 12. August 1947.

14th of September 2007: According to too Lawrence R. Spencer he received the material on the 14th of September 2007  from an anonymous address in Ireland. In a letter, Matilda said she is now 83 years old and she has decided to leave her body. She asks Lawrence R. Spencer to make it public without endangering himself.

The story is about the alien pilot who survived the crash at Roswell and Matilda was a nurse in the army at that Time and she took care of the being. She discovered that she could telepathically communicate with him. The information he got was published in 2007.


All those years I thought that I had been entrusted with a great deal of confidence by the “powers that be” in our government, although I have often felt that power is greatly misguided, to “protect” Mankind from the certain knowledge that, not only do intelligent extraterrestrial life forms exist, but that they have and continue to aggressively monitor and invade the lives of everyone on Earth every day.

Many men have been killed to extinguish the possibility of revealing the knowledge I have helped to withhold from society, until now. Only a small handful of people on Earth have seen and heard what I have had the burden of keeping secret for sixty years.

I don’t think it would be responsible of me to take the knowledge I have into the silent afterlife, beyond reach or recognition. I think there is a greater good to be served than protecting the “vested interests” for whom this information is considered a matter of “national security”, whatever that means, and is, therefore, the justification for making it “TOP SECRET”.

I have reconsidered my position, for a variety of reasons. I do have a responsibility to myself, at least. I can not possibly tell you the personal Hell 5 of ethical irresolution and spiritual ambivalence I have endured since 1947. I do not want to keep playing the game of “maybe I should have, or maybe I shouldn’t have”, through the rest of Eternity!

A Crashed disk

“By the time Matilda with the alien had returned from the crash site to the base she had already spent several hours with her.

The debris was collected and transported to the wright fields located nearby and Nathan Winding the commanding officer a four-star General. Highly decorated during WW2. The layout of location in 1952.

As I (Matilda) wrote or mentioned, Mr. Cavitt told her to stay with the alien, since I was the only person among us who could communicate and understand with the now captured Alien.

I had never before that time experienced telepathic communication with anyone.
The non-verbal communication I experienced was like the understanding you might have when a child or a dog is trying to get you to understand something, but much, much more direct and powerful! Even though there were no “words” spoken, or signs made, the intention of the thoughts was unmistakable to me. I realized later that, although I received the thought, I did not necessarily interpret it’s meaning exactly.

I also think that the alien being was not willing to discuss technical matters, due to the nature of her position as an officer and pilot with the duty to maintain the security and confidentiality required by her own “unit” or organization.
I have always felt that the alien being was not really trying to hide anything from me.
I just never got that feeling. Her communication always seemed honest and sincere to me. I definitely feel that I shared a unique “bond” with the alien. II think this because the alien could understand and feel that I was really interested in “her” and had no harmful intention, nor would I allow any harm to come to her if I could prevent it.
I refer to the alien as “her”. Actually, the being was not sexual in any way, either physiologically or psychologically. “She” did have a rather strong, feminine presence and demeanor.

Physiology, the being or Airl was “asexual” and had no internal or external reproductive organs. Her body was more like the body of a “doll” or “robot”, not constructed or build of biological cells. Build for the space environment.
In stature and appearance, the body was quite short and petite. About a 40 inches tall.
The head was disproportionately large, relative to arms, legs, and torso, which were thin. There were three “fingers” on each of the two” hands” and “feet” which were somewhat prehensile.
The head had no operational “nose” or “mouth” or “ears”. I understood that a space officer does not need these as space has no atmosphere to conduct sound. Therefore, sound related sensory organs are not built into the body. Nor does the body need to consume food, hence, the absence of a mouth.
The eyes were quite large. I was never able to determine the exact degree of visual acuity of which the eyes were capable, but I observed that her sense of sight must have been extremely acute. I think the lenses of the eyes, which were very dark and opaque, may also have been able to detect waves or particles beyond our visual spectrum of light and may have included the full range of the electromagnetic spectrum, or more, but I cannot be sure.
When the being looked at me her gaze seemed to penetrate right through me, as though she had “x-ray vision” and a little embarrassing, at first, until I realized that she had no sexual intentions. In fact, I don’t think she ever even
had the thought that I was male or female.
It becomes very obvious after a short time with the being that her body did not require oxygen, food or water or any other external source of nutrition or energy.

As I learned later, this being supplied her own “energy”, which animated and operated the body. It seemed a little bit eerie at first, but I got used to the idea. It’s really a very, very simple body. There is not much to it, compared to our own bodies.

Airl latter explained to me that it was not mechanical, like a robot, nor was it biological. It is animated directly by her as a spiritual being. Technically, from a medical standpoint, I would say that Airl’s body could not even be called “alive”.

It had a smooth skin or covering which was Gray in color. The body was highly tolerant of changes in temperature, atmospheric conditions, and pressure. The limbs were quite frail, without musculature. In space, there is no gravity, so very little muscle strength is needed.
Since Earth has a heavy gravity, the body was not able to walk around very well as the legs were not really suited to that purpose. The feet and hands were quite flexible and agile, however.
Overnight, and before my first interview with the alien, the area had been transformed into a buzzing hive of activity. There were a dozen men working on setting up lights and camera equipment. A motion picture camera and microphone and a tape recorder were there also set up in the “interview room”. (I don’t understand why a
microphone was needed since there was no verbal communication possible with the alien.) There was also a stenographer and several people busily typing on typewriters.
I was also informed that an expert foreign language interpreter and a “code breaking” team had been flown to the base during the night to assist with my efforts to communicate with the alien. In addition, there were also several medical personnel –specialists in various fields — to examine the alien. And, a professor of psychology was there to help formulate questions and “interpret” the answers. As I was just a nurse, I was not considered to be a “qualified” interpreter, even though I was the only one there who could understand anything the alien was thinking!
There were many subsequent conversations between us.

Each “interview” resulted in an exponential increase in understanding between us, as I will discuss later on in my notes. This is the first transcript with the answers to a list of questions provided to me by the intelligence officer at the base which I debriefed to the stenographer
immediately following the interview.”

Airl death or passing;
The door of the gallery room was slammed open during my last interview with Airl!
Five heavily armed military police rushed into the room! A man in a white laboratory coat
followed closely behind them. He pushed a small cart that carried a box-shaped machine with a lot of dials on the face of it.

Before I could react, two of the MPs grabbed Airl and held her firmly down in the overstuffed chair she had been sitting on since the first day of our interviews together. The two other MPs grabbed my shoulders and pushed me
back down on my chair and held me there. The other MP stood directly in front of Airl, pointing a rifle directly at her, not more than six inches from her head.

The man in the lab coat quickly wheeled the cart behind Airl’s chair. He deftly placed a circular headband over Airl’s head and turned back to the machine on the cart.

Suddenly, he shouted the word “clear!”

The soldiers who were holding Airl released her. At that instant, I saw Airl’s body stiffen and shudder. This lasted for about 15 or 20 seconds. The machine operator turned a knob on the machine and Airl’s body slumped back into the chair. After a few seconds, he turned the knob again and Airl’s body stiffened as before. He repeated the same process several more times.

I sat in my chair, being held down all the while by the MPs. And I didn’t
understand what was going on. I was terrified and transfixed by what was
happening! I couldn’t believe it!

After a few minutes, several other men wearing white lab coats entered the room. They briefly examined Airl who was now slumped listlessly in the chair.
They mumbled a few words to each other. One of the men waved to the gallery window. A gurney was immediately rolled into the room by two attendants. These men lifted Airl’s limp body onto the gurney, strapped her down across her chest and arms, and rolled it out of the room.
I was immediately escorted out of the interview room by the MPs and taken directly to my quarters, where I was locked in my room with the MPs remaining at guard outside the door.

After about half an hour there was a knock at the door to my quarters. When I opened it General Twining entered, together with the machine operator in the white lab coat. The General introduced the man to me as Dr. Wilcox.
He asked me to accompany him and the doctor.

We left the room, followed by the MPs. After several twists and turns through
the complex we entered a small room where Airl had been wheeled on the

The General told me that Airl and The Domain were considered to be a very
great military threat to the United States. Airl had been “immobilized” so that
she could not depart and return to her base, as she said she would do in the
interview. It would be a very grave risk to national security to allow Airl to
report what she observed during her time at the base. So, it had been
determined that decisive action was needed to prevent this.

The General asked me if I understood why this was necessary.


General Nathan Twining


General Nathan Twining
General Nathan Twining

According to some internet publications, he told his son the truth just like Matilda did, six weeks before he passed.

A highly decorated 4-star General Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff under President Eisenhower (and who was the Commander of the Air Materiel Command at Wright Field in July of 1947) too his namesake son that the Roswell crash was an extraterrestrial event. Even more astonishingly, he disclosed that one of the aliens had survived. He went not that far as Matilda looking for a way to make it public.


Back to Matilda; I said that I did, although I most certainly did not agree that it was the least bit necessary and I certainly did not agree with the “surprise attack” on Airl and me in the interview room! However, I said nothing about this to the General because I was very afraid of what might happen to me and Airl if I protested.

Dr. Wilcox asked me to approach the gurney and stand next to Airl. Airl lay perfectly still and unmoving on the bed. I could not tell whether she was alive or dead.

One of these devices I recognized from my training as a surgical nurse as an EEG machine which is used to detect electrical activity in the brain.
The other device was a normal hospital room vital signs monitor, which I knew would be useless since Airl did not have a biological body.

Dr. Wilcox explained to me that he had administered a series of “mild” electroshock to Airl in an attempt to subdue her long enough to allow the military authorities time to evaluate the situation and determine what to do
with Airl.

He asked me to attempt to communicate with Airl, telepathically.

I tried for several minutes but couldn’t sense any communication from Airl. I couldn’t even sense whether Airl was present in the body any longer!
“I think you must have killed her”, I said to the doctor.
Dr. Wilcox told me that they would keep Airl under observation and that I would be asked to return later to try to establish communication with Airl again.”

“The next morning I was escorted from my quarters, under the guard of four MPs, to the interview room. Airl’s overstuffed chair had been removed from the room and replaced by a small desk and several office chairs.
I was asked to sit down and wait to be interviewed. After a few minutes, Dr. Wilcox came into the office together with another man wearing a plain business suit. The man introduced himself as John Reid.

Dr. Wilcox explained to me that Mr. Reid had been flown in from Chicago at the request of my superior officers to conduct a lie detector test on me! My surprise at this statement was so obvious, that Dr. Wilcox noticed that I was obviously taken aback, and insulted, at the insinuation that I had ever lied about anything!

Nonetheless, Mr. Reid began to set up his polygraph device on the desk next to my chair, while Dr. Wilcox continued to explain, in a calm voice, that the test was being administered for my own protection.
Since all of the interviews with the alien had been conducted telepathically, and Airl
had declined to read and attest that the typed transcripts were accurate, that the truth and accuracy of the statements contained in the transcripts depended entirely on my personal word alone.

There was no other reliable way to test the accuracy of the transcripts without submitting me to a battery of tests and psychological examinations to determine, in the opinion of “experts”, meaning himself, whether the transcripts should be taken seriously, or not. The tone of his voice said very clearly, “or dismissed as the delusional ranting of a mere woman!”

Mr. Reid proceeded to strap a rubber tube around my chest, as well as an ordinary blood-pressure cuff around my upper arm. He then placed electrodes on the fingers and surfaces of my hands. He explained that he would be very objective during the interview because he had been thoroughly trained in scientific interrogation. This training was supposed
to make his interrogation free from human error.

Mr. Reid explained to me that, in response to the questions he and Dr.Wilcox were going to ask me, that actual physiological changes would be transmitted through a small panel unit. The readings would then be tracked on moving graph paper, which he placed beside the machine on the desk. The parallel graphs on the paper would then be correlated and
interpreted by Mr. Reid, with the “expert” assistance of Dr. Wilcox, to determine whether or not I was lying.

Both Mr. Reid and Dr. Wilcox asked me a series of innocuous questions to begin, which advanced into a more pointed interrogation about my interviews with Airl.

Here is what I remember about the questions:
“What is your name?”
“Matilda O’Donnell”, I replied.
“What is your date of birth?”
“June 12th, 1924”, I said.
“What is your age?”
“Where were you born?”
“Los Angeles, California”, I said.
(And so on, and so forth.)
“Are you able to communicate by telepathy?”
“No. I have never been able to do this with anyone
except Air.” I said.
“Were any of the statements you made to the
stenographer falsified?”
“No”, I answered.
“Have you intentionally or unintentionally imagined or
fabricated any of the communication you claimed to
have had with the alien?”
“No, of course not”, I said.
“Are you intentionally attempting to deceive anyone?”
“Are you attempting to obstruct this test?”
“What color are your eyes?”
“Are you a Catholic?”

“Would you tell the same stories to your parish priest in a Catholic church confessional that you told to the stenographer here at the base?”
“Are you trying to hide anything from us?”
“No. Nothing.”
“Do you believe everything the alien communicated to you?”
“Do you consider yourself to be a gullible person?”
The questions continued in this manner for more than an hour.

Finally, I was unhooked from the polygraph machine and allowed to return to my quarters, still under guard by the MPs.

Later in the afternoon, I returned to the interview room. This time the desk was replaced by a hospital gurney. Dr. Wilcox was accompanied by a staff nurse this time. He asked me to lie down on the gurney. He said that he had been requested to ask me the same series of questions that I answered for the lie detector test.

This time, however, I would respond to the questions under the influence of a “truth serum”,known as sodium pentothal. As a trained surgical nurse, I was familiar with this barbiturate drug as it was sometimes used as an anesthetic.

Dr. Wilcox asked me if I had any objection to submitting to such a test.
I told him that I had nothing to hide. I cannot recall anything about this interview.
I assumed that when I finished answering the questions I was escorted back to my room by the MPs, with their assistance this time, as I was too wobbly and woozy from the drug to navigate by myself.
However, I had a very peaceful sleep that night.

Apparently, neither of these interrogations yielded any suspicious results as I was not asked any more questions after that. Thankfully, I was left alone during the rest of my time at the base.”

JFK and the Alien file.

Was JFK killed because of his interest in aliens?
The president’s interest in UFOs shortly before his death did fuel conspiracy theories and the documents, released to Mr. Lester by the CIA, add weight to the suggestion that the president could possibly have been shot to stop him discovering the truth about Aliens working with and within in the US government. It is a disputed file, nicknamed the ‘burned memo’, The document, which has scorch marks and received by Timothy Cooper in 1999 from an unknown CIA source but this has never been verified.
In this ‘burned memo’ the CIA director allegedly wrote: ‘Lancer [JFK] has made some inquiries regarding our activities, which we cannot allow’ In a note sent with the document, the apparent whistleblower said that he worked for CIA between 1960 and 1974 and pulled the memo from a fire when the agency was burning some of its most sensitive files there. The undated memo contains a reference to ‘Lancer’, which was JFK’s Secret Service code name. It is all about information manipulation and at the core of most deceptions. Also the Control op public view, responses, and behavior.

A Secret memo shows that president demanded UFO files 10 days before death. An uncovered letter written by John F Kennedy to the head of the CIA shows that the president demanded to be shown highly confidential documents about UFOs.
JFK’s interest in UFOs could have been fuelled by concerns about relations with the former Soviet Union but he got stonewalled. In the second memo, sent to the NASA administrator, the president expresses a desire for cooperation with the former Soviet Union on mutual outer space activities.‘One of his concerns was that a lot of these UFOs were also being seen over the Soviet Union and he was very concerned that the Soviets might misinterpret these UFOs as a kind of U.S.. aggression.
The question is ”Are there aliens? and the answer Definitely”. However, according to insiders, the “Tall White” agenda does not involve any plan for domination?

Yes, there are other aliens on earth with ideas along those lines and have been supportive of Hitler for example during world war two. There Planet of origin is Aldebaran.

Many are fascinated by the possibility of aliens and probably statistically correct, many seek information about their existence. The change statistically that there would be no other highly developed civilizations out there is one divided by a number with 13 zero’s.In other words impossible or zero.
Also, We do know that some Google satellite images have been retouched in the past and widely published so don’t expect to see much there with exception of Antarctica. Discovered too late and spotted by a number of interested people, cannot be retracted now.
A serious mistake.

JFK did try to warn us all of the untold evil. Not the first American President to do so nor the last, also we did not heed his warnings.

He did say; the very word ”Secrecy’ is as repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret society, to secret oaths, and to secret proceedings.
We are now in big trouble despite JFK’s warning as did Matilda based on her evidence but only a few did even bother or chose even to listen.
He is talking about the fundamentals of a free and open society and again is the norm we need to measure all societies with including the USA. The cynical thing is that the things the US did claim and believed it was fighting for to protect did happen and part of current US government in the US. Time in retrospective. 1963-2017.

He addresses the National Security issues and warning that there is a great danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limit of official censorship and concealment. But what did happen one crisis after another including 9/11 created that push.

The use of digital manipulation/control of the masses.

He goes on; we decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweigh the danger which is cited to justify it.

Moral aspect; even today there is little value in opposing the threat of a closed society by imitation arbitrary restrictions. There is little value in ensuring the survival of our own nation if these traditions do not survive with it. Al his fears have now materialized in the US, an Orwell type society or a world.

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