Dulce, copy interview with Thomas Castello

Dulce, part interview with Thomas Edwin Castello.

In 1987 I was introduced to the DULCE PAPERS by UFO research group Quest International, UK

Thee documents discussing a joint Alien/government run facility in New Mexico, USA. They show and talk about a piece of cameras footage of alien breeding chambers and tanks holding what appears to be grey aliens.
These documents surfaced at a time when Ufology was blossoming around the world, sightings were up and the emergence of the Crop circles had spawned a new generation of interested searchers. During this time many strange documents were fed to the hungry public domain, by strange cloudy background characters like Bill Moore, Bill Hamilton andJohn Lear. Each of these told a confusing, disturbing story of human / alien interaction, underground bases and a secret government at the heart of a cosmic conspiracy.
In 1987 the document fascinated me – and cross referenced with abduction stories and alleged security guard statements and tit bits from around the world, I felt that the whole story had some element of truth.
Nearly ten years later in 1996 through the internet I found a piece of film footage that was labeled AREA51.

This turned out to show exactly the same scenes as released in the Dulce Papers almost ten years earlier. In clear detail large upright tanks can be seen with what really does appear to be grey aliens inside!

The following is a list of questions that were directed to former Dulce Base Security officer Thomas Edwin Castello approximately a year before his death [or disappearance], followed by his responses:

QUESTION – When exactly was the upper human-occupied level of the] Archuleta installation
ANSWER – I heard Dulce was started in 1937-38 by the Army engineers, enlarged over the years, most recent work was completed 1965-66 to connect tunnels to the Page [Arizona] Base, site of one of the older underground facilities. The four corners base is called PERICA.
Most of the Native Americans [the Indians] living in that area are aware of that
base, and could tell us about the underground life forms that frequently are spotted near those communities, Bigfoot, etc.
(Note: The references to
the Dulce base here deal mainly with the upper levels, not the extreme lower levels which include vast natural caverns and, some believe, very ancient tunnel systems as well. This
would include the tunnels illuminated by phosphorus pentoxide which the alien grays avoid, and the origin of which is unknown.
In fact sources have informed us that some of the underground NORAD facilities of Colorado were constructed within already-existing cavern systems, suggesting that Ray Palmer
and Richard Shaver were correct when as early as the mid-1940’s they wrote about the government’s search for ancient underground cave and tunnel systems to be converted for their own use. (Branton)

Q — By what means was the [upper] installations constructed? Are you familiar with the alleged developments made by the Rand Corporation of a highly-efficient bore or mole
machine capable of melting rock using nuclear powered wolfram-graphite tipped ‘drill-cones’?
A — According to several senior maintenance workers, part of it was blasted by nuclear devices in the sixties. There are sections, like the shuttle tunnels, that were formed
by an advanced tunneling machine that leaves the tunnel walls smooth. The finished walls in those tubes resemble polished black glass.

Q — By WHOM was the Dulce installation originally constructed?
A — Nature started the caverns. The Draco [reptilian humanoids] used the caverns and tunnels for centuries. Later, through RAND Corporation plans, it was enlarged repeatedly.
The original caverns included ice caves and sulfur springs that the ‘aliens’ found perfect for their needs. The Dulce caverns rival Carlsbad caverns in size. (Note: Carlsbad caverns and especially the adjacent Lecheguilla caves are ‘officially’ among the largest and deepest in the world, with several ‘leads’ that remain to be explored by professional speleonauts – Branton)

Q — What exactly are the cattle [and human] organs such as blood, anal tissue, eyes, reproductive organs, tongues, etc. used for — i.e. the organs obtained via cattle and human mutilations?
A — Read the so-called Dulce papers [for more information].

Q — Are the various electromagnetically-controlled air or space craft — [that have been seen] leaving from and arriving at Mt. Archuleta — manned by humans, the ‘alien entities’, or both?
A — Archuleta Mesa is a minor area… the craft leave [and are stored] in five areas.
One is SE of DULCE, one near Durango Co., one at Taos, N. M., and the main fleet is stored at LOS ALAMOS [under]. (Note: I believe Thomas Castello is referring to the ‘joint-
operational’ fleet. From combined sources however it appears as if Dulce is absolutely SURROUNDED ON ALL SIDES by ‘alien’ bases, and that Archuleta peak — although apparently
the central NEXUS of the entire underground network — is nevertheless just one part of an overall complex that some claim is nearly the size of Manhattan! One source has indicated that there are chambers a few hundred feet below the very town of Dulce itself that are
part of level one of the facility. This close proximity may explain why it has usually been described as the ‘Dulce Base’. Apparently even with his high-security clearance, Thomas Castello was only familiar with one part of the overall mega-complex which underlies the area.
Whatever amount of activity is taking place there, different sources seem to indicate that the town of Dulce nevertheless lies over a major crossroads, convergence or ‘intersection’ area of alien activity even though the ‘core’ of alien activity has been extended to Los
Alamos. Los Alamos and the mountainous regions east and southeast of it in and around the Santa Fe National Forest seem to be the MAJOR ‘nest’ of Reptiloid/Gray forces in North America, although there is also a large number of ‘dens’ scattered throughout the
underground networks between Dulce and Area 51.
Dulce seems to be a major ‘through’ point for exterran and subterran reptilian activity, a central ‘infiltration’ zone for surface operatives, as well as an operational base for
abduction-implantation-mutilation agendas and also a major convergence for sub-shuttle terminals, UFO ports, and so on. – Branton)

Q — Others have suggested that some of the entities below Dulce are not of extraterrestrial’ ORIGIN, and that they are actually descended from saurian or
reptiloid beings such as the Velociraptors or Stenonychosaurus Equallus — a ‘serpentine’ race or races similar to that hinted at in the third chapter of the book of Genesis?
A — Yes, some ‘reptoids’ are native to this planet.
The ruling caste of ‘aliens’ ARE reptilian. The beige or white beings are called The
Draco. Other reptilian beings are green, and some are brown. They were an ancient race on Earth, living underground. It may have been one of the Draconian beings that ‘tempted’ Eve in the Garden of Eden.
Reptoids rightly consider themselves “native Terrans.” Perhaps they are the ones we call the Fallen Angels. Maybe not, either way, we are [considered] the ‘squatters’ on Earth.

Q — Some have suggested that the so-called underground ‘E.T.’ bases and tunnels may, for a large part, be literally thousands of years old…constructions of an antediluvian race which attained to a considerable level of scientific complexity, and who were destroyed by a Divinely-initiated cataclysm which took place after they attempted to merge their
science with occult/supernatural forces.
For instance some have suggested that the Bermuda Triangle phenomena may be the
result of an out-of-control Atlantean experiment that led to a space-time disaster
which produced “electromagnetic fallout” in the Triangle area and elsewhere after they had
accidentally loosed powerful forces and energies into the world that they knew very
little about. Do your observations tend to confirm or refute such a possibility?
A — I’m not sure about the Divine part, but these ‘aliens’ consider themselves

Q Where do the little gray Aliens fit in?
They work for, and are controlled by the Draco.
There are other gray skinned beings that are not in league with the Draco.

Q — Did you ever talk to any of the ‘Aliens’ at the Base?
A — Since I was the Senior Security Technician at that base, I had to communicate
with them on a daily basis.
If there were any problems that involved security or video camera’s, I was the
one they called. It was the reptilian “working caste” that usually did the physical
labor in the lower levels at Dulce.
Decisions involving that caste were usually made by the white Draco.
When human workers caused problems for the working caste, the reptoids went to the white Draconian ‘boss’, and the Draco called me. At times, it felt like it was a never ending
problem. Several human workers resented the “no nonsense” or “get back to work” attitude the working caste lives by. When needed, intervention became a vital tool.
The biggest problem were human workers who foolishly wandered around near the “OFF LIMITS”
areas of the “Alien Section.”
I guess it’s human nature to be curious and to wonder what is past the barriers.
Too often someone found a way to bypass the barriers and nosed around. The camera’s near the entrance usually stopped them before they got themselves in serious trouble.
A few times I had to formerly request the return of a human worker.

Q — Are there other sites tied-in to the ‘shuttle network’ other than those
which you mentioned, and if so, where are the entrances?
The subterranean highway in America is like a freeway except it’s underground.
That highway depends on electric motors [for trucks, cars and buses] for the
paved roads, and it is for limited travel.
There is another style of transit for freight and for passengers that is for rapid travel. That world wide network is called the “Sub-Global System.” It has “check points” at each
country entry. There ARE shuttle tubes that ‘shoot’ the trains at incredible speeds using a mag-lev and vacuum method. They travel at a speed that excels the speed of sound.
Part of your question involves the location of entrances to that base.
The easiest way to answer is to say every state in the U.S.A. has them.
Frequently, the entrances are camouflaged as sand quarries, or mining
Other complex portals are found on military bases. New Mexico and Arizona have the
largest amounts of entrances followed by California, Montana, Idaho, Colorado, Pennsylvania, Kansas, Arkansas and Missouri. Of all the state’s
Florida and North Dakota have the least amount of entrances. Wyoming has a
road that opens directly into the subterranean freeway.
That road is no longer in use, but could be reactivated if they decide to
do so, with minimal cost. It’s located near Brooks Lake.

Q — Are there any ‘bases’in the state of Utah? (Note: Thomas mentioned several
areas surrounding Utah — Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada and Idaho, where there are
‘connections’, but little on Utah which according to some sources lies directly over one of the largest NATURAL cavern systems in North America, one that is said to reach deep beneath the Western Rockies as well as beneath the Bonneville basin)